It was not until 11 pm that the summit came to an end.
Strictly speaking, it was not a large-scale summit forum, and it did not last for many days. The main event was tonight's gathering.
In the next few days, not everyone would leave. Some people might stay and continue to communicate for a period of time.
The organizer, Ma Yun, would not leave so soon, but people like Li Dong would usually leave tomorrow.
When the meeting ended, everyone's focus was on Li Dong. He did not communicate with the others, but walked quickly to the back row.
When he walked to Qin Yuhan, Qin Yuhan was slightly stunned, but Li Dong smiled and said, "Uncle Qin, how are you?"
"… Quite good …" Qin Yuhan reacted and nodded. "Thank you."
"You're welcome. If you need any help, call me at any time."
Li Dong laughed and said, "I still have something to do here, so I'll go back first. The Food Order Network is doing well. If there's a chance, we can go to Far away to talk about cooperation."
"… Okay …"
"Okay, then I'll go."
Li Dong exchanged a few words, and then the other executives Far away also greeted Qin Hai before leaving with Li Dong.
After they left, many people focused on Qin Yuhan again.
Many people were a little surprised, until someone reminded in a low voice, "The father of CEO Qin of the Food Order Network used to be the chairman of Far away Logistics, Mr. Qin Hai."
As soon as this was said, many people suddenly understood.
However, Qin Hai's resignation from Far away actually made Li Dong worry. This meant that Qin Hai's resignation should have been voluntary.
At this time, someone whispered, "What do you know? This little CEO Qin is Li Dapao's junior high school classmate, high school alumnus, and they have a close relationship. Baidu General Manager Li, Longhua CEO Xu, East Star CEO Hu, all took the initiative to greet him in the restaurant before. His mother was also one of the founding fathers of Far away. She served as the financial manager, and later retired from Far away. Don't think that the scale of the ordering website is small, but if anyone thinks that the other side is weak, hehe … "
The person who spoke had a meaningful look on his face. The family of three was related to Li Dapao.
His mother was one of the founding members of the Far away Group, his father was the chairman of a subsidiary group, and he and Li Dong were classmates. There was no doubt that they were close.
Just as the others were digesting this news, someone in the crowd whispered, "Far away, CEO Qin resigned just as General Manager Li announced he was getting married …"
"Could it be?"
"Otherwise, do you really think others are fools to leave just like that in front of the chairman? Far away Logistics' chairman wouldn't even be replaced by a CEO of a state-owned enterprise. Qin Hai left just like that. There are a lot of inside stories … "
"Shh! Don't talk about it. It's fine as long as we know what we're doing. It'll be troublesome if we talk too much. "
"…"
Some small and medium-sized enterprises were very cautious and did not dare to talk loudly.
The other big entrepreneurs did not talk about this.
Many people knew Qin Yuhan.
Ma Yun knew her. When Li Dong brought Qin Yuhan to Beijing to attend a banquet, he was also there.
Not only him, but many people were there.
He did not remember it before, but now that he thought about it, he instantly remembered.
Hearing the discussion, Ma Yun shook his head slightly, and then smiled at the people beside him. "Li Dapao is really energetic. Far away is not enough for him to play around."
"I can't be envious. He's too young."
Zhang Jindong joked, and then said seriously, "This time, we'll stay for a few days to discuss how to deal with the upcoming situation. Also … "
Zhang Jindong paused, and after a while, he said, "It's best that Taobao does not participate in the November 11th."
Ma Yun's expression froze, and he said softly, "Do you also think that we will be defeated this time? Once the gap between the two sides is too big, the outside world will question the competitiveness of Taobao and Ali. The doubts of the outside world are a small matter, but I'm afraid … "
Zhang Jindong sighed. "I'm afraid that your internal affairs will not be stable. I've heard about the financing reception.
Although you made a counterattack and used his reputation to help Taobao quickly complete the financing plan, there are gains and losses.
At that time, you said that if you fail, you will merge with Far away.
Many of your investors have the same idea and thoughts.
Once the gap is too big, Taobao will be in danger.
Let's not talk about the B2C business, once Wan Jia surpasses Taobao, your existence will be worthless. "
There was nothing to say about Far Away Mall's performance surpassing Taobao's. Far Away was the overlord in the B2C field.
But once Wan Jia, a rising star, also surpassed Taobao, would Taobao still have any value?
For ordinary enterprises and ordinary small and medium-sized platforms, it didn't matter.
But for Taobao, the king of C2C that had been dominating the industry for so many years, once it couldn't even compare to Wan Jia, then its existence value, room for appreciation, and future potential would all vanish into thin air!
Moreover, Far Away was not a flash in the pan. Almost no enterprise that was surpassed by Wan Jia had the chance to overtake it.
Once Taobao's C2C business was surpassed by Wan Jia, everyone present understood one thing. Even if Taobao was not finished, everyone would lose confidence in Taobao.
If a company could not bring expectations and future profits to investors, why would investors continue to invest?
At that time, the internal affairs would definitely not be stable.
In addition, the major shareholder, Yahoo, would also be at two ends. In the end, even Ali would be in danger!
It wasn't that everyone couldn't see through some logic.
It was just that no one had thought about this before, and no one thought that Wan Jia could really surpass Taobao so quickly.
But now that they thought about it, Far Away was good at creating miracles. Why wasn't it possible?
Li Dong had previously acquired Tencent Piaopai in a high-profile manner, but he didn't do anything after that. This was not in line with Li Dong's character.
It was just that at that time, Far Away was at war with Tencent. Everyone subconsciously ignored this and felt that Li Dong was diverting their attention.
Now that they thought about it again, it might not be just to divert their attention. The possibility of it being arranged in advance was higher.
Ma Yun's face was solemn, and then he said firmly, "Taobao will not lose!"
It was fine if Tmall was not as good as Far Away in the B2C business. But if the C2C third-party platform that they were so proud of was defeated, then Ali would really be a failure.
Zhang Jindong sighed. "Some things still need to be prepared in advance. Old Ma, it's good to have confidence, but it's also necessary to be prepared in advance to prevent the whole of Ali from falling into a crisis. "
Ma Huateng, who hadn't left yet, frowned slightly. "Resolving Yahoo's problem in advance is your biggest crisis. Even if Taobao is defeated, it's only a piece of territory that they lost. But if we don't resolve Yahoo's problem, it might cause the whole of Ali to collapse. Especially now that Ali is delisted … "
A delisted company was much easier to snipe than a listed company, especially when the person at the helm didn't hold a lot of shares.
At this time, the risk of a company changing ownership was very high.
Ali now had three major shareholders: Ali Group, SoftBank, and Yahoo.
These three companies held 100% of Ali's shares. The other minority shareholders were cleared out before and after the company was delisted.
Among them, Yahoo held 39% of Ali's shares, SoftBank held 27%, and Ali Group held 34%.
34% was more than one-third, and it was also a very subtle shareholding ratio.
For an internet company, holding more than one-third of the company's shares was enough for the team to control the company's operations.
But at a critical moment, one-third was not enough.
Especially when the company lacked cash flow, and it was risky to hold less than 50% of the shares.
If Yahoo was shaken, it wouldn't be a big problem. If SoftBank was shaken, it might be worse than Tencent, and the company might change ownership.
Even if Ali had the priority to buy back the shares because of the agreement, the key problem was that they still didn't have the money.
So, just like what Li Dong said at Taobao's financing reception, the current Ali could only win and not lose!
Even if it lost, it could only be a small loss.
Once it was defeated, the company would definitely fall into chaos.
After Ma Huateng finished speaking, Ma Yun said seriously, "During the May Day promotion, Taobao achieved 1.6 billion in actual sales, and it's not an exaggeration!
During the July 18 promotion, Taobao achieved 2 billion in daily sales, and it's not an exaggeration either!
Nowadays, the online shopping market was developing very fast, and it was changing with each passing day.
On November 11, as long as the promotion was done properly, Taobao's daily sales would not be a problem.
And on July 18, Far Away Mall and Wanjia Web advertised a daily sales of 3.6 billion, but in fact … the difference was not big.
And their Wanjia Web only accounted for about 20% of the daily sales, which was close to 700 million.
On Taobao's side, it was the opposite. Tmall only accounted for 20%, while Taobao accounted for 80%, which was more than 1.6 billion in daily sales.
Do you think that Wanjia Web can exceed 1.6 billion this time? "
"Yes!"
Ma Huateng said firmly, then smiled and said, "I don't dare to say about others, but I don't think there's any problem with Li Dong. If it's really only a few billion, it's not a big problem. After all, it's only for a day. But once … it exceeds Taobao by a few times, or even ten times … "
Ma Huateng didn't even need to say that if there was such a big gap, it meant that Wanjia Web had been accepted by the public.
Later on, it would enter a period of rapid development.
At that time, Taobao's side would have no chance at all.
"Ten times!"
Everyone gasped. Zhang Jindong said doubtfully, "Huateng, aren't you overestimating Li Dong too much?"
On Taobao's side, Ma Yun was confident that Taobao's sales would not be less than 1.6 billion. Wanjia Web had just been established not long ago, so how could it achieve 16 billion in a day?
Before this, Wanjia Web's highest record was only 700 million.
Ma Huateng shook his head and said, "I don't know, but I know that if Li Dong wants to do it, he will do it to the extreme.
It's only the publicity stage now, but we can already see some clues.
I believe that Far Away will make more moves. Old Ma, you have to be careful.
In the IT field, except for Li Yanhong, who followed Li Dong and did not suffer any losses, we have all suffered a lot.
When it comes to you, our generation of IT people will lose again …
Then … the previous generation will really die on the beach. "
Ma Huateng sighed a little. The age of 40 was the peak of an entrepreneur.
But their generation had not climbed to the peak of glory, and their road ahead was cut off.
Li Dong, who was born in 1985 and was not even 30 years old, defeated them and became the leader of the new generation.
It would be a lie to say that he did not have any thoughts.
But it was difficult for Ma Huateng to fight for this now, but there was still hope for Ali.
As long as Ali could defeat the online industry Far Away, it would be a great victory. After all, they were IT people and did not need to care about how strong the offline industry Far Away was.
But if even Ali lost, even if there were other IT companies, Far Away would be invincible in the same industry and in the same field.
Ma Yun took a deep breath and finally looked at everyone and said, "I rarely speak to everyone, but this time, I hope everyone can help me!"
Many people in the crowd did not say anything.
Ma Yun looked at Liu Chuanzhi and the other tycoons in the manufacturing industry and said sincerely, "I did not ask everyone to help me, but I still hope everyone can understand one thing. Two companies competing is better than one company monopolizing the market!
Far Away, once the online shopping market is monopolized, there will be no more chances in the future, regardless of whether you do online business or not.
Now, everyone still has a choice.
You can choose Tmall, Taobao, Far Away, Wan Jia …
But if we lose this time, I'm afraid we can only choose Far Away online.
When that time comes, do you really think Li Dong will be the same as before?
Even if he is willing, Far Away will not be willing! "
There were many big manufacturers present, and many of them were the main companies formed by the supply chain channels of the various platforms.
These manufacturers were also the cornerstone of the e-commerce platform.
The more support from the manufacturers, the cheaper the purchase price, or the more generous the feedback during the activities, it would be a great help to the platform.
Usually, these companies that did not have their own online channels or did not have strong online channels would need the platform's help.
They hoped that the online channel could bring them business growth and that the platform could help them open up new channels.
At that time, they were the ones asking for the platform, and the platform was strong.
But now, Ma Yun was asking for their support.
At this moment, Ma Yun also knew that blindly being strong was not suitable for the current situation.
Just as he said, everyone still had a choice now. They could choose Far Away.
Therefore, Ma Yun used the excuse of asking for help.
If there was only Taobao now, and it was still like a few years ago, he would not use the excuse of asking for help, and he would be strong to the end.
But not now!
Even though Ma Yun felt that Taobao would not be defeated so quickly, the opponent was Li Dong, and he himself did not know what would happen in the end.
Liu Chuanzhi glanced at Ma Yun, and after a while, he said in a low voice, "We understand what you are saying, but now, online channels, especially those targeted at brands, Far Away is our main business.
Far Away's online and offline platforms have provided us with a large number of orders every year.
Billions of orders!
We also don't want to let Distance Store monopolize the market. It can be our largest online and offline channel.
If we support Taobao this time, and Taobao is the same as before, then it is not a big problem.
But if we strongly support Taobao and they are still defeated, Old Ma, what do you want us to do? "
Although the Association and the other companies were also setting up their own stores, it required time and money.
Their main focus now was manufacturing.
And Far Away's Gome Home Appliances and Far Away Mall would provide these companies with a large number of orders every year.
The competition in the manufacturing industry was not weak. If they supported Taobao this time and Far Away went against Taobao, Taobao would not be able to hold on.
Far Away might be suppressed before the layout of their own stores was complete.
Hua Xia had quite a number of manufacturing companies, and there were even more in the world.
On the other hand, there weren't many distributors, especially those that were big distributors.
Take the home appliances industry for example, currently, Hua Xia was Far Away and Suning, and they had occupied the majority of the market.
In the department stores industry, Far Away had also occupied a large share of the market.
Far Away, if they were banned and their products removed from the shelves, it would not affect them much in the world, but in Hua Xia, the impact would be unimaginable.
If everyone's direct chain stores were almost complete, it would be fine, but the problem was that they did not.
Among Hua Xia's manufacturing companies, Haier's direct chain stores were the most widely distributed and had the largest coverage.
The others, such as the Association, TCL … these companies were not self-sufficient for the time being.
It was not worth it to offend the biggest distributor.
Ma Yun naturally knew all this, but he still said, "Far Away is strong, but if Ali and Suning, Great Shang, Bailian, and Jingdong join forces, even Far Away will not be able to compete with them. As I said, I do not ask for everyone to be biased towards me, just maintain neutrality. Far Away will receive the same policies as us, this is not too much, right? "
Although Zhang Jindong was pulled into the car by Ma Yun, he did not mind at all. He smiled and said, "Brothers, Old Ma is right. Not to mention, in the home appliances chain stores, Suning's share is slightly higher than Gome's. Far Away will provide a large number of orders to everyone, but Suning will not have any? I'm afraid this is not appropriate, right? As a business, at the very least, fairness and justice must be ensured. Otherwise, it will weaken our competitiveness, and in the end, everyone will be like fish on the chopping board. Far Away will be at the mercy of others. "
The heads of the other manufacturing companies all looked at Liu Chuanzhi. At this moment, many of them felt a toothache. If they knew this would happen, they would have left earlier.
Now that these two were forcing them to express their stance, they were also in a difficult position. They could only wait and see what Liu Chuanzhi had to say.
Old Liu was the leader of the manufacturing industry and had a good relationship with Li Dong, Ma Yun, and the rest.
At this moment, if the Association were to express their stance first, it would be better for everyone to answer to Far Away's questions.
Liu Chuanzhi looked at Ma Yun, Zhang Jindong, and the rest and sighed in his heart. Finally, he nodded and said, "Alright, after we go back, we will discuss the specifics of the plan."
At this moment, Liu Chuanzhi's biggest thought was to strengthen the Association's own distribution channels.
At this moment, he was almost forced to agree to Ma Yun's conditions.
It was not only Ma Yun. Far Away's activities, every time there was a discount, it was these manufacturers who paid for it.
Why?
It was because their own distribution channels were not strong enough. Without the support of these big distributors, it was easy for their products to be unsalable and have too many inventory problems.
As long as their own business's distribution channels were strong enough, they did not need to care about these.
Haier was rarely threatened by these distributors because Haier's distribution channels were perfect.
The Association might be more well-known than Haier, but everyone knew the actual situation.
After that, everyone dispersed.
Ma Yun sighed softly. This time, they had offended someone.
But they had no choice. The support of the manufacturers would affect the competition in the future.
To put it more seriously, it would affect Ali's survival.
If Ali was not short of money, it would not be a problem to spend money to subsidize it, but the problem was that they did not have money to spend.
At this time, if the manufacturers still sided with Li Dong, there would be no need to fight. They might as well just raise their hands and surrender.
Today's manufacturers were only a part of them. Ma Yun knew that time was tight. Within a month, they had to reach an agreement with other manufacturers and third parties.
At the very least, in terms of these basic preparations, they could not be left behind by Far Away. Otherwise, they would not be able to participate in the Double 11.
In addition, the shadow of Yahoo flashed in Ma Yun's mind.
In addition to preparing for the Double 11, he had to find a way to solve these hidden dangers.
These investors who had supported Ali before were now time bombs.
It was better to bring in new investors than these old investors.
When new investors entered, they would usually sign long-term strategic agreements.
However, after the listing of Alibaba in Hong Kong, these agreements had actually passed their expiration dates.
After that, the two sides did not sign new supplementary agreements.
On the one hand, there was no reason to keep restricting the other party. On the other hand, if Ali proposed it now, the other party would not agree.
If he forced it at this time, it would prove that Ali was not optimistic about his future prospects, and it would easily cause accidents.
"It's difficult!"
When no one was around, Ma Yun showed a rare look of fatigue.
In the past few years, it had been more difficult than when he started his business. He had not slept well for many days.
Since the rise of Li Dong and Far Away, the two sides had overlapping businesses, and Ali had been in a passive state.
Every step Li Dong took was blocked in front of them.
It was not a big trouble once or twice, but if it happened too many times, even the people on Ali's side would not be confident.
If a company lost confidence, how could it continue to develop?
Thinking of this, Ma Yun gritted his teeth. This was also an opportunity!
An opportunity to prove himself, to prove Ali, and to improve morale!
It was just a promotion. Even if Ali were to go bankrupt, it had to beat Distance until it couldn't raise its head!
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