Uncle En sat calmly on the sofa. As an industrialist who had performed extremely well in the British business world, he was not surprised by Vézé's decisiveness. Of course, the European social activists who came with him felt very different. Perhaps it was too easy to get an audience with His Majesty the Great Emperor of China. These people's prediction of Vézé was too different from the reality.
However, when Vézé spoke, the translators and guards who had long been extremely dissatisfied with these activists got up to "see them off" without saying a word. The man did not expect the Chinese to be so straightforward. This was not the legendary China style of restraint and forbearance. It was simply more simple and crude than the European monarchs.
When he was forced to leave, he turned his head and looked at Uncle En who was sitting next to Vézé. He finally recognized the reality that the Great Emperor of China, Vézé, only wanted to see Uncle En. This thought immediately aroused a trace of jealousy in his heart. At the same time, he was also looking forward to Uncle En being able to persuade Vézé. To let the rude Great Emperor of China realize that history was not on his side.
After the man left, Uncle En asked Vézé, "Sir, I have read a lot of your articles. I didn't see that you love war so much in the articles. "
"I think it's better to change love to courage." Vézé could not help but defend himself.
"Do you believe that war can solve problems?" Uncle En put forward his opinion.
Vézé waved his hand. "It's not a problem that war can't solve, but war can solve the people who cause the problem. If we look at the problem from the perspective of human society, then all problems are caused by people. Although you look at the problem very deeply, I must say that the reason for starting the war this time was not provided by us, China. "
"And then you solve the domestic problem abroad?" Uncle En's words were still so straightforward. Although he was criticizing and even mocking Vézé, Uncle En did not agree with the companion who was driven away. Uncle En felt that his companion had made a mistake, that was, he looked at the problem with the traditional habits of an intellectual … In other words, as long as it was someone he did not agree with, they were more stupid than him. Uncle En did not completely agree with Vézé's actions and some of his opinions, but he absolutely admitted that Vézé had extraordinary strength. To be able to stand at the peak of power and carry out expeditions that spanned tens of thousands of kilometers, such a person could not be equated with incompetence and stupidity. In Uncle En's opinion, even if Vézé was still stupid and incompetent, he should still be omniscient and omnipotent. The standard of omniscience and omnipotence was not only higher than Vézé, but also higher than everyone else on Earth. Among these people who were not omniscient and omnipotent, Vézé was perhaps one of the few who was closest to that realm.
"That depends on whether it's a domestic problem now or in the future." Vézé did not want to play dumb with Uncle En, and he was also interested to test how far Uncle En's vision could reach.
Uncle En's eyes narrowed slightly. Vézé's words were actually a bit cliché. "For our future" and "For our children", European monarchs and politicians had told this kind of lie too many times. Vézé was right. If he destroyed the United States and occupied such a huge territory, it could indeed relieve China's population pressure.
Before meeting Vézé, Uncle En first traveled in China. Needless to say, the developed railway and shipping system, the large population of the cities along the way made Uncle En somewhat understand what 800 million people meant. Every city was full of people, every street was full of buildings. From the South China Sea to Guangdong, from Guangdong to Jiangzhe. Such cities were one after another. The population of the cities Uncle En visited was probably more than the population of the entire Europe.
When Uncle En arrived at Nanjing, known as the City of Light, he couldn't help but admire the capital of China. London, Paris, and Berlin, compared to this city, looked small and shabby. The filth and filth that filled those cities couldn't be compared to Nanjing.
"Sir, you may be planning for the future of China. But I'm curious, who are you going to hand over everything you have built? Is it the owner of capital or the proletariat? "Uncle En finally said words based on his recognition of Vézé.
Vézé's eyes lit up, and he couldn't help but smile. That's it, that's how it should be! Vézé's mood finally relaxed. This was how people should question him. Even if this kind of words were often spoken by the mouths of the 20th and 21st century populists, Vézé believed that Uncle En was not a populist. Being questioned by such a smart person with such a simple question, Vézé's vanity was greatly satisfied.
"I believe that communism can be achieved. Although I think that the conditions for the realization of communism are very different from everyone else, that doesn't mean that I don't think communism can be achieved. Based on this position, of course, I hope that workers can have the means of production. "Vézé slowly answered Uncle En's question.
Uncle En didn't doubt that Vézé himself didn't support the capitalist system. If Vézé supported the capitalist system, he wouldn't have established state ownership of land in China for decades.
"How are you going to ensure that your wish can really become a reality? And I doubt that in the future, can you really guarantee that China won't be divided into America's China and Asia's China? "Uncle En's view on war was very sharp, and he also made a lot of deductions on the way.
Wei Ze smiled. This was the advantage of talking to an expert. Everyone understood it all too well. They understood it all too well. The distance between Asia and the United States would definitely cause a lot of problems. Even if Vézé's wish came true, there was no guarantee that China, which straddles Asia and America, wouldn't have problems in the future. From this point of view, Uncle En's words were very polite. He didn't laugh at the possibility of Vézé's failure in starting a war.
With a smile, Vézé answered Uncle En's question. "In my opinion, it's better to have both Asia's China and America's China than China and the United States. Let the children and grandchildren take care of the children and grandchildren. There's no need for us old guys to worry about it. This world will definitely belong to the young. Even if we old guys oppose it, the god of death will stand on the side of the young. "
"Haha." Uncle En also laughed. He was also an old man, so he didn't really like Vézé's attitude. But there was a strong vitality in Vézé's words. With such an attitude, even the death that ended things became the driving force for society. Even if Uncle En didn't like the words, he liked this attitude.
After laughing for a moment, Uncle En said, "In other words, there's no way for me to make you regret your decision?"
Vézé nodded slightly. "To be honest, I had countless regrets when I was young. Those wrong choices, the things I failed, the people I lost. All of those things used to make my heart ache. But later on, I admitted these facts. I'm just a mortal. From then on, there's only one standard for my judgment. That is to pat my chest and ask myself once a day if I did my best and if I have a clear conscience. I just have to do my best in everything. "
Uncle En was stunned for a moment, then he said with a smile, "It turns out that you're such a sentimental person. I'm really surprised."
The person who came with Uncle En had a dumbfounded expression on his face. He didn't know whether Uncle En was sincere or not. This kind of attitude really didn't seem to be sentimental. If it could be said to be emotional, then it would be the Wei Ze who felt regret, sadness, and pain. Can a guy who admits that he's just a mortal really be sentimental? To be able to come with Uncle En meant that he had some knowledge. Those who really admit that they're just mortals are probably not pushovers.
Next, Uncle En and Vézé talked about China's land policy. European communists were very fascinated by China's state ownership of land. There were numerous research reports on China's state-owned land system, and official policy documents from China were treasures that European communists and even socialists flocked to. The real practice of public ownership that these people could see only existed in China. In other countries other than China, private ownership had basically divided up everything in the country. Therefore, the vast majority of socialists supported everything in China. They tried to make positive comments on Vézé's policies.
Of course, there were also some communists who opposed Vézé. Their reason for opposing Vézé was that Vézé wasn't progressive enough. Just like land policy, the theory and practice of China's state-owned land system were very simple. The land was state-owned, and everyone only had the right to use it. Those who chose to work on the land signed a farming agreement with the state, and the state provided technical and policy services and management to the land users.
Europe's evaluation of this policy of "changing all the legal basis of real estate" was very polarized. Some people thought that this approach was just to make private ownership more reasonable. Some people, especially those socialists with a more right-wing position, praised this idea. They thought that the great emperor of China, Vézé, implemented a complete revolution with a position of "explicitly attacking feudal relations". What's more, Marx also made it clear in the Communist Manifesto that communists did not oppose the people's possession of social products, but only opposed the privatization of the means of production.
It was obvious that Vézé was very interested in this. However, after listening to the general situation, Vézé asked Uncle En for his opinion. Uncle En answered straightforwardly that he was not willing to make a too clear evaluation of this matter. It was not that he didn't dare to, but he didn't want to do so. There were many immature aspects in China's state-owned land system, and some parts were obviously temporary policies. Since he didn't know Vézé's plan, Uncle En didn't think there was any point in criticizing Vézé.
"Sir, so I would like to ask you, what is your purpose in launching this war?" Uncle En felt that this was a good time to ask this key question.
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