Restaurant.
Ma Huateng was shocked. "What did you say?"
Li Dong smiled as he drank. "Do you need me to repeat myself? Cooperation! "
Ma Huateng frowned. "Say it again. I think I heard wrongly."
Li Dong frowned. "Let's talk about serious business. No jokes.
I will acquire PaiPai.com and Far Away Mall will connect to QQ. With QQ as the traffic entrance, I will expand Far Away Mall's scale and number of users.
In other words, I will officially enter the C2C market and defeat Taobao!
2009 is an important year in my plan, and it is also a year of harvest.
This year, I will destroy Taobao. Ali can focus on their B2B business. There is no need to compete with me in the online shopping market.
Also, we will use this opportunity to work together to resolve some of our previous conflicts. "
Ma Huateng asked seriously. "You want to launch an all-out attack this year?"
Li Dong narrowed his eyes. "Yes. I want to strengthen my position as the retail giant!
It is the same whether it is online or offline!
I do not need someone to share the market with me. Also, third-party merchants need a platform like mine.
With the help of PaiPai.com, we will rebuild our C2C system.
I have thought about it. If necessary, we can split Far Away Mall and PaiPai.com into two. One will focus on B2C, and the other on C2C.
PaiPai.com may not be famous, but its C2C market share in 2008 is only second to Taobao and Far Away.
If Far Away's C2C business is combined with PaiPai.com, we can instantly reach 30% of Taobao's market share.
If we focus on developing our C2C business, very quickly, we can easily reach 50% of Taobao's market share.
If you are willing to work together, QQ will connect to Far Away Mall and PaiPai.com. If you give me resources to promote Far Away, we will be able to expand and develop faster.
How can Ali compare to me in terms of traffic entrance?
PP, Cartoon Network, and Weibo can all be used as traffic portals to attract a large number of users … "
Ma Huateng raised his hand and said, "Stop for a moment, I just want to ask a few questions. If we cooperate, will Far Away Mall support Paypal? Also, cooperation is built on the premise that it's beneficial to both parties. What you're saying now is only beneficial to Far away. What about me? "
Li Dong raised his eyebrows and said, "Not helpful to you?
Seriously, I'm trying to lighten your load.
Tencent would benefit from abandoning e-commerce and going into battle light.
Now, you are being suppressed by us, and you still want to continue your e-commerce business? You are courting death.
Moreover, if I take down Papapai, I will officially have a conflict with Taobao. I will be standing on the opposite side. Do you think this is good or bad for you?
As for the transactions through the Tencent portal, of course, Tenpay was supported. However, it did not include Tencent.
In this way, most of the deposited funds would go to Paypal.
The money was taken by you. Isn't that a good thing?
Of course, you might not agree just based on these.
I can consider selling 10% of Far Away Mall's shares to Tencent before the listing. You should know what this means.
Far Away Mall is now the controlling shareholder after I separated it from the retail group.
I have not brought in any external investors because I want to maximize the benefits during the peak period.
But if you agree to cooperate, I can promise to sell a portion of my shares to you.
How much do you think Far Away Mall is worth?
If we can defeat Taobao online, we will be the overlord of the online shopping market.
We will occupy more than 80% of Hua Xia's online market share, and this amount is hard to estimate.
I don't dare to say anything else, but I think the value of Far Away Mall after it is listed will not be lower than Tencent's current value. "
Ma Huateng frowned and said, "You are underestimating Tencent!"
"I am not underestimating them. You know it clearly. Tencent is no longer the overlord in the past. Far Away Mall is rising, and PP has already occupied more than 35% of the market. But Far Away Mall is different. E-commerce is the future trend of the internet industry. We are the overlord in B2C and C2C, and we will not be weaker than Tencent. "
"Ali will not fail so easily!"
"That was in the past!"
Li Dong's tone became heavier. "It's different now. Far Away Mall is surrounded, and they are trapped.
Their Tmall Mall cannot be established, Alipay's market share is decreasing, and their B2B business is suffering. Yahoo and Ma Yun are at odds, and their logistics system cannot be set up.
Now, they only have a chance to survive.
If I enter the C2C market at this time, Taobao will die within three years!
Even if they don't die, they will not be able to grow, and their scale will continue to weaken.
The strong get stronger, you should understand this principle.
When they are strong, they will only get stronger, and more people will support them.
But when they are surpassed, it will be a different story.
This is Ali's most difficult period, and they do not have the capital to compete with us.
Even if Alipay opens a virtual currency fund, how much funds do you think they can raise?
Also, it will not be easy for Yahoo to leave.
Without the support of funds, everything is empty.
Far Away Mall will continue to grow, and how many investors do you think will support them?
In 2008, when Far Away Mall's performance surpassed Taobao, Taobao's fate was sealed.
Think about it. If we work together, it will only be beneficial for you.
We will build Hua Xia and the world's number one e-commerce mall, and it is only a matter of time before we surpass Amazon … "
Ma Huateng interrupted, "Leave the words of persuasion to your employees.
I, Ma Huateng, am not someone who can convince me with just a few words.
Taobao's foundation is still there, and there are no signs of their performance declining.
C2C is not your forte, and your scale is not even 20% of Taobao's. I do not think you can surpass Taobao now.
Of course, if we integrate with Paipai and cooperate with you, we will still have a 30% chance.
But this is only 30%, and it is under the condition that Ali does not retaliate.
You said you want to defeat Taobao, and I have my doubts.
But we can discuss the 10% shares of Far Away Mall … "
Li Dong scolded. "You dare to say that?!
Why should I give you the shares without any cooperation or Paipai? Do you think I am an idiot?
Also, do you think the possibility of Taobao being defeated by me is not high?
Now, efficiency is everything. My logistics system is in full swing, and Ali is no match for me.
Lastly, it was no longer the PC that was king!
Maybe it is now, but it won't be long. In the mobile industry, Ali is still a layman. What do they know?
Do you think all my efforts are in vain?
I have been innovating on the Wantoon, investing in the mobile industry, and have been preparing for the mobile distribution platform since a long time ago, including the cooperation in the mobile phone industry …
All of this is to completely push forward the development and progress of the mobile era.
The mobile Internet era is about to enter the explosive period!
The time given to Ali is very short, and while they are still adapting, we have already made all the preparations and will enter the mobile industry at the first opportunity.
Coupled with our offline support and fame, we will soon occupy the first place in the mobile industry, the absolute first!
Once the mobile industry surpasses the PC industry, what do you think Ali will use to fight me! "
Ma Huateng's expression changed slightly, and he said in a low voice, "Are you sure that MI can develop to this stage?"
Li Dong immediately scolded. "You are still doubting at this time?
If you are not joking with me, then you are an idiot. I will not deal with Ma Yun first, I will deal with you first!
This is the 3G era, and the MI era has just arrived.
But I am sure that 3G is not the end, it is just a starting point. Soon, the entire Hua Xia, including the entire world, will enter a higher realm.
You can judge for yourself how long this period is, and I have my own judgment as well.
In short, you can choose to cooperate this time, or you can choose not to cooperate.
If you cooperate, there are only advantages and no disadvantages for Tencent.
If you do not cooperate, your e-commerce business will die by itself sooner or later, and your influence will gradually weaken, and sooner or later, you will be officially surpassed by Far away.
If I were you, I would choose to fight with Ali at this time, even if there are no benefits, I would still support him vigorously.
We are all smart people, and there is no need to pretend to be ignorant.
Moreover, I have already communicated with the major mobile phone terminal manufacturers, and once their terminals are online, Far away's mobile business will also be online immediately!
This time, all the terminal manufacturers are on my side, including the Association!
As for why, you should know.
What we have, what others don't, just look at OPPO and you will know.
The terminals are on my side. In the express delivery industry, the Newbie Alliance has been established for many years, but it is still an empty shell, who will continue to accompany Ali?
Soon, these pioneers in the express delivery industry will also be our allies.
Tony, in a situation where you do not have an advantage in terms of price, in a situation where efficiency is faster, and in a situation where you have a greater reputation and a greater guarantee, as an online shopping user, what will you choose?
Taobao's advantage is not in anything else, it is only in price!
When our price system is the same as theirs, all their advantages will be gone, and an electronic shopping mall without any advantage will not have a chance to grow. "
Ma Huateng really wanted to smoke, but smoking in public was not his style.
Raising his wine glass, Ma Huateng drank it in one gulp, and after a while, he said, "Haven't you always been against C2C? You feel that the C2C field is full of fakes, and the supervision is weak, so why did you choose C2C now? Now that you are entering the market on a large scale, aren't you afraid that the reputation you built up in the early stages will be completely wasted? "
Li Dong smiled and said, "I'm not against it. Rejection and vigilance are two different concepts.
C2C has its value, but the C2C platform is full of fakes, which is indeed a headache.
Far away is different from Taobao, we have the biggest B2C brands.
Famous brands go to B2C, unknown brands and local specialties, private products go to C2C, so that everyone has a clear idea.
Big brands can only be found in B2C shopping malls, small brands and unknown brands can go to C2C shopping malls.
This way, although we still can't eliminate fakes, at least we can achieve the greatest restrictions and precautions.
But what about Taobao?
There are some things that I don't need to say, you should understand.
Far away has Far away's bottom line and foundation, and has the confidence to say and do these things, but Ali doesn't!
This is why I want to enter the C2C field! "
Ma Huateng drank another glass of wine, licked his lips and said, "From what you said, there is a possibility of success. Of course, I still say the same thing, this matter isn't that simple. Ma Yun won't not respond … "
Li Dong said angrily, "I'm only talking about cooperation with you, about the acquisition of Pai Pai, I didn't ask you to judge if we can defeat Taobao! Even if we can't, we won't lose, at least our B2C will not decline. Go back and think about this yourself, but business is business, don't tip off Old Ma for the time being. It won't be too late to talk about it after we officially cooperate. "
"Are you sure I will cooperate?" Ma Huateng said with a faint smile.
Li Dong snorted and said, "I'm very sure! Because this is the most correct choice! If you don't agree, then it means you are out of your mind, and I will deal with you later, let Ali go this time. "
"Are you threatening me?" Ma Huateng said coldly.
"It's not a threat, it's a fact."
Li Dong said, "If I can't make it big in the e-commerce field, I will have to consider other areas. Far away can't stay stagnant forever. Before you attack me, I will attack you first, I will have a higher chance! "
"MI field?"
"It depends on your understanding."
"I have laid out the MI field earlier than you, and the QQ mobile version has been launched long ago. What makes you say this?"
Ma Huateng tried to probe Li Dong again, Tencent had started to lay out the mobile version in the 2G era.
Ma Huateng did not think that Li Dong can defeat Tencent in the MI field quickly.
Or maybe Li Dong is purposely diverting his attention, his real target is still Ali?
Ma Huateng had a headache, how should he choose?
Actually, he still has some ideas about the cooperation method Li Dong mentioned.
Giving up on e-commerce alone, cooperating with Li Dong, investing in Far Away Mall, and maximizing profits, this is inevitable.
But considering the PP, Ma Huateng was still a little unwilling.
Actually, he knew that PP and Far Away Mall are not the same, they are two different concepts.
But suddenly, his opponent became his partner, this change is something he did not consider before.
Li Dong was indifferent to Ma Huateng's probing, "It's not illegal to try, moreover, it's not just a simple chat now.
What you have, I have.
What you don't have, I also have.
Games, videos, visitors … I am bigger than you in these industries.
Think about it yourself, if we were to fight, can you win me?
The era of diversity is here, I am giving you time now, but you don't cherish it, forcing me to fight you, you are forcing yourself to a dead end.
Is your relationship with Ma Yun that good?
He lost Taobao and Hua Xia's largest B2B market, you lost QQ, what do you have?
Think about it carefully, I still have guests to meet tonight, I won't accompany you, I'll be leaving first. "
After Li Dong finished speaking, he picked up his jacket, stood up, and left.
Ma Huateng stayed at the same spot for a long time, not saying a word.
Li Dong's last sentence stung his heart a little.
I lost QQ, what do I have?
Ma Yun lost Taobao, but to Ma Yun, it is not a dead end.
Ali previously focused on the B2B industry, Taobao was just a casual creation, but they did not expect it to be so big.
In 2007, just the listing of Ali's B2B business created a market value of 26 billion USD, exceeding Tencent. Obviously, Ali's foundation is not in Taobao and Tmall.
Ma Yun can afford to lose, but he can't.
Now that he is unwilling to cooperate, if Li Dong really changes his target, will he be a match for him?
Ma Huateng, who wanted to take the initiative to fight, started to hesitate and hesitate.
How many years has it been, this feeling surfaced in his heart again.
Tencent really can't afford to lose at this time!
Even if Li Dong is just scaring him, Ma Huateng actually does not have the confidence to win, it is just a fight with his back to the wall.
But now, Li Dong has given him another choice.
Cooperate and attack Ali together.
If two Internet giants join forces, two giants with the largest user base in Hua Xia, no, the two giants with the largest user base in the world, attack Ali together, will Ali be a match for them?
After the battle, he can also get a share of Ali's profits, and it will also give him more time to prepare. Is this good or bad?
Even though he is biased, Ma Huateng still can't decide, because the sense of crisis is still surrounding him, making him hesitate.
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