As soon as Li Dong and Ma Yun finished speaking, the audience burst into thunderous applause.
It was not that everyone objected to Li Yanhong. On such an occasion, as long as her words were reasonable and reasonable, the audience would not hesitate to applaud.
The applause for Li Yanhong's previous speech was not less.
Now that Li Yanhong was refuted by the two e-commerce tycoons, the audience still burst into thunderous applause.
Li Yanhong was still pondering on the stage. The host smiled and said, "General Manager Li, do you have anything to refute about their remarks just now?"
Li Yanhong came back to her senses and said with a smile, "There's no need to refute. Everyone has their own opinions. What we need is this kind of situation. The Internet industry has developed rapidly in this kind of collision and has come to where it is now step by step. "
At this point, Li Yanhong paused and said, "Of course, I still have a few questions to ask Li Dong and Ma Yun. Both of you are gurus in the field of e-commerce. I think, from your answers, maybe I can see the future more clearly. "
Li Dong, who was in the audience, said with a smile, "Yanhong, if you have something to say, just say it. In fact, everyone is feeling the stones to cross the river. It's too early to say gurus. Of course, a guru who calls himself the Eastern Heretic is not in the scope of what I'm talking about. "
"Hahaha …"
The audience burst into laughter, and someone who did not know what was going on asked in a low voice, "What's going on? Who is Li Dong talking about? "
An insider immediately said, "He's talking about Ma Yun."
In 2008, Ma Yun was not very famous. He only became popular when his company was listed in Hong Kong last year.
However, this year, the stock price of Ali's B2B business fell sharply, and not long ago, it fell below the issue price. For a time, Ma Yun's reputation in the IT industry fell.
Except for some people who paid special attention to him, ordinary people, even those in the industry, did not know much about Ma Yun.
Ma Yun liked Jin Yong's novels very much and had held several "West Lake Sword Conference" summits.
During the sword discussion, Ma Yun referred to himself as the Eastern Heretic, Huang Yaoshi. He had a special liking for Huang Yaoshi, and the Eastern Heretic was naturally a grandmaster.
Li Yanhong said casually, and Li Dong also teased Ma Yun.
Those who knew the inside story naturally couldn't help but laugh. The few of them were arguing with each other. It was obviously not correct to say who was on the same side as who.
Strictly speaking, Li Dong and Li Yanhong were working together. They even shared technology and could be considered as partners.
But just now, Li Dong had teamed up with Ma Yun to attack Li Yanhong. Clearly, they had formed a temporary alliance.
Now, Li Dong pulled Ma Yun out to make fun of him. Those in the know naturally knew that the temporary alliance just now had disbanded.
In the business world, whether it was the Internet industry or other industries.
It's hard to tell people who's an adversary or an ally.
It's possible that two people might be on the same side today, but the next day, they might become the biggest rivals.
Take the Internet industry for example. Today, Ma Yun and the other two were sitting together, while Ma Huateng was sitting with 361's Zhou Hongyi. The two of them were having a good time chatting.
The two of them were still on good terms. They weren't rivals.
But in the future, when the 3Q war broke out, the two of them would be fighting each other. Who could predict this now?
Also, Zhou Hongyi and Lei Jun were originally friends. Lei Jun's wife and Zhou Hongyi were classmates, and the two of them had a good relationship.
But in the future, when Jinshan and 361 fought, no one would choose to back down because of their old friendship.
Similarly, whether it was the government or the business world, other than when one was weak, one would choose to side with certain people or certain businesses. The team would always be fixed.
However, when they became stronger, it would be a big mistake to use your own team's order to measure them.
True giants almost didn't have fixed alliances.
When there were benefits, everyone could come together. When there were no benefits, or when there was a conflict of interests, both parties would be enemies in the blink of an eye. These were all very normal things.
In the eyes of ordinary people, it was shameful to be indecisive.
But to people at a different level, it was really stupid to leave a mark on themselves that belonged to someone.
…
Li Dong's teasing obviously couldn't shake Ma Yun.
Ma Yun laughed and said, "An entrepreneur who doesn't want to be a Grandmaster is not a good entrepreneur. Li Dong's words are hypocritical. Just now, you said that Yanhong was hypocritical for not wanting to make money, and now you're following in her footsteps."
Li Dong laughed and said, "I'm being humble. You're being thick-skinned."
"There are so many people here, and the eyes of the crowd are sharp. Do you need to vote for the thickest skin?" Ma Yun joked.
"…"
The two teased each other, and Li Yanhong on the stage couldn't help but say, "I say, can the two of you give me some time to ask a few questions?"
Li Dong coughed lightly and said, "I almost forgot. Yanhong is still waiting. Everyone, quiet down and give Yanhong a chance to get back at her."
Li Yanhong laughed and didn't mind his teasing. She said, "Just now, Li Dong, you said that the current C2C e-commerce is no longer mainstream. Then, can I take it that you mean, C2C e-commerce has already become a thing of the past? "
Li Dong shook his head and said, "These two can't be lumped together. Naturally, I didn't mean it that way.
The rise of B2C and even O2O doesn't mean C2C has become history.
Now that all major companies are diversifying, in fact, the e-commerce field also needs to diversify.
Whether it is C2C, B2C, O2O, or others, they are all inclusive.
The e-commerce field hasn't developed for a long time in the country, so let's not make it fixed.
Keep trying to find the most suitable e-commerce model for the people in the country. That's what we need to do.
Don't limit yourself to a certain field. If you want to do C2C, then do C2C. If you want to do B2C, then do B2C. There's no need for that.
Whether it is Taobao or Far away, we are actually looking for a breakthrough point.
When a certain field reaches a bottleneck, we can adopt the '+' model.
C2C + B2C + O2O, and even more things like logistics and finance can be added in.
There are actually no barriers between industries.
Maybe there were in the past, but ever since the Internet, this barrier has been broken.
Let's not talk about other things, just in the financial sector. In the past, you could only pay in cash when you buy things. At most, you could use a credit card.
But now?
How many online shoppers pay when they receive the goods?
There are more than 100 million Alipay users, and there are as many as 80 million Wan Toon users. If you look at these people's spending patterns, you will find that everything has changed.
This is a general trend. This is the trend of society. The industry barrier has been broken. "
After Li Dong finished speaking, applause sounded again.
Ma Yun, who was sitting beside him, also kept clapping!
Li Dong's words were especially to his liking. The key point was that Li Dong had brought up the Internet finance at the end.
The Internet finance had broken the monopoly of the traditional financial industry and broken the industry barrier. This was indeed the trend of the times.
Bringing up this at this time would also make everyone think deeply.
Next, it would be much easier for Wan Toon and Alipay to push for the liberalization of the Internet finance system. At least, it would not be so abrupt and unacceptable.
Other than that, the '+' model that Li Dong mentioned made Ma Yun, Ma Huateng, and the other big shots thoughtful.
Li Yanhong, who was on the stage, thought for a moment and said, "I understand what you said. The '+' model that you mentioned is not only suitable for the Internet industry, but also traditional industries. What you are doing now is to integrate your online business, supermarket, and logistics into one. In other words, you did not think of this model in the spur of the moment. You have been practicing it for a long time, right? A single O2O model is no longer enough to represent the current ecosystem Far away. Li Dong, I will call Far away's model the Internet + model for the time being. Then, do you think this new model can reconcile the traditional economy and the virtual economy? "
Li Dong smiled and said, "Your summary is very incisive. Since you said Internet +, then let's use this as a replacement.
But you are wrong. You said that the real economy and the virtual economy are opposed. In fact, in my opinion, it is a fallacy.
The two were not opposed to each other. They were just two forms of business behavior. In fact, they were still integrated.
As for whether this model is good or not, everyone can see for themselves.
Far away's current path and the results are clear to everyone.
Ma Yun had always wanted to take this path. In the past, Taobao relied too much on C2C, causing him to walk with a limp.
Now, he wants to treat the other limp, and he is working towards this direction.
In the end, when we were all thinking about treating our illnesses, you plunged headfirst into it. You haven't even grown your legs, and you're already thinking about surpassing others. You can brag, but you're just slapping yourself in the face. "
Li Yanhong smiled bitterly. "I have learned a lot from your point of view. But can you not add the last sentence in the future? Every time I feel like I have eaten a sumptuous meal, I am still savoring the aftertaste. But you just have to add something disgusting, turning a sumptuous meal into fast food. "
The rest laughed.
But not everyone agreed with Li Dong's view. Before Li Dong put down the microphone, Tom, the new CEO of eBay, took the microphone and said, "Mr. Li Dong, according to what you said, doesn't that mean that all the internet companies, especially the e-commerce websites, are walking with a limp?
The only one that is not limping is Far away.
Far away's model has not been verified yet. To me, Far away's success is more accidental and not representative.
I feel that your words might cause others to misunderstand.
Not every company has the support of a strong capital.
You want to walk with a full leg, and that requires a strong capital. If we follow your way, I think most of the companies here will enter a dead end. "
Li Dong smiled. "What you said only represents your thoughts, and what I said only represents my thoughts.
Of course, I admit that Far away's success is accidental.
But I do not agree with you when you say it is not representative.
I did not say that I want everyone to follow the path of Far away. Let's talk about e-commerce. I am doing a supermarket, logistics, e-commerce, and city complex. This is not something that every company can afford.
But we have to break down the barriers in the industry.
You don't have to add so much, but the internet is a trend. You have to admit this.
The traditional economy and the internet economy had been clashing with each other for the past few years, and it is because of your views.
The internet is purely the internet, and the traditional economy is purely the traditional economy. Is this correct?
The small and medium-sized companies do not need to consider this, but the big companies must consider this!
As the leaders of the internet industry, we are all looking for ways to develop together. I think Yan Hong, Ma Yun, and most of the people are thinking about this and are also implementing it.
TOM Yi Qu, the former leader, pioneer, and pioneer of the industry. It is because of your views that you are stubbornly sticking to the same path, and that's why you are in this awkward situation now.
I heard that earlier this month, when Wang Lei left Yi Qu, he said that he regretted acquiring Yi Qu the most.
Why would he have such thoughts?
I think acquiring Yi Qu is not a mistake, and Yi Qu has its own value. The real mistake is that you all did not adjust your mindset and were not prepared to fail.
You were the number one in the C2C industry in the past, but that doesn't mean you all must regain your pride in the C2C industry.
As Mr. Li's business, I think TOM Group does not lack funds to develop.
However, you all spent a lot of money, but received very little in return. At this time, you all should reflect and not complain. You also shouldn't be too cautious and afraid to take the next step.
You have not even started on the path, and yet you say that you will reach a dead end.
With this mindset, I dare to say that in three to five years, there will be no place for TOM Yi Qu in the e-commerce market in Hua Xia. "
"Clap clap clap!"
A series of applause sounded again. This was the first time Li Dong had set off a wave of applause.
Although Li Dong's words were a slap to the face and even made the people from TOM Yi Qu feel embarrassed.
But they had to admit that the losers had no right to refute.
The former number one in the industry, the one that made Ma Yun afraid, and the one that made Taobao feel as if they were facing their greatest enemy, Yi Qu, had finally come to an end.
Everyone is looking for change. Change is life, and no change is death.
Taobao was changing. Far away was changing. Jingdong was changing …
All the surviving companies were changing, but only Yi Qu remained the same. Yi Qu was still focused on getting back at the C2C industry. It would be strange if it didn't die.
Li Dong's rebuttal made the other party speechless.
The new head of Yi Qu was disappointed, angry, and unwilling. But in the end, he still said softly, "Thank you. I agree with part of what Mr. Li Dong said. But I still want to say that not every company can take this path. "
Li Dong smiled and nodded. "You can say that. But if you want to become a big company, you have to take this path. If you're satisfied with what you have now, with being content with a little wealth, then what I'm saying is nonsense. But in fact, the purpose of this conference is to seek change, strength, and development. If you don't have this mindset, why are you attending the conference? "
"Li Dong is right. This is also the purpose of us coming to the conference together."
Li Yanhong, who was on the stage, seemed to have been forgotten. She took the opportunity to interject and said, "Thank you, Li Dong, for clearing my doubts.
At the same time, thank you, Ma Yun and Li Dong, for giving me such a huge blow that I want to give up on Baidu's C2C path.
But since I have already started, there is no reason for me to give up halfway.
Today, I have learned my lesson.
C2C is just the beginning of our e-commerce path, but it will not be the end.
We have to continue on this path. Let our legs grow back. When we have both legs, then I will come back to verify everything that happened today.
Let me borrow a sentence from Li Dong. We are still young. At most, we can start all over again! "
Li Yanhong bowed and left the stage. The audience applauded.
Yes, Li Yanhong's speech was not a success. She had been defeated by Li Dong and Ma Yun. Especially Li Dong. He had stolen everyone's limelight and became the talk of the town.
But Li Yanhong did not give up. She was brave enough to accept the challenge.
People who achieved great success in their careers usually had one thing in common. They were very resilient!
Success or failure was fine. You had to dare to try. Even if you failed, you would not be defeated by the setback.
A real genius would fail thousands of times and achieve the greatest success in the last attempt.
Of course, only those who succeeded could be called a genius. Those who failed thousands of times and still did not succeed were complete failures in life.
Li Yanhong left the stage. The conference's opening ceremony officially ended.
…
Just as the audience was taking a break.
Li Dong was surrounded by the crowd.
The "+" theory that he had just proposed was to many people's liking.
And Far Away was the pioneer on this path. At present, there was not only one company that could connect the traditional economy with the Internet economy. Only Far Away could achieve the greatest impact.
Of course, Far Away could not be considered a success.
Their "+" model was still in its early stages. If they really wanted to achieve results, it would not be something that could be accomplished overnight.
In the crowd, the boss of the Ministry of Industry and Information Technology smiled and said to Li Dong, "Li Dong, the Internet + you just mentioned is quite interesting. If you don't mind, we can talk about it in detail next."
Li Dong smiled and nodded. "Of course. But I'm actually just exploring it. If Director Zhang really wants to get any useful information from me, I'm afraid it will be a little difficult. I can't do it alone. I need the efforts of the entire industry to break down the barriers of every industry. Take Internet finance for example. Until now, it has not been recognized by the country and officially approved by the government. And Internet finance is an indispensable part of the entire Internet system. We are wandering in the gray area and do not dare to fully develop and make breakthroughs … "
As soon as this was said, Ma Yun's eyes lit up. He quickly added, "Li Dong is right! Director, if you want the Internet industry to achieve greater progress and success, it will be difficult to continue relying on individuals or companies. Our real guide, the pioneer, is the government! The government gives us more space so that we can play to our potential and achieve greater breakthroughs in the unknown field … "
Li Dong and Ma Yun talked about this one after another. Then, Ma Huateng, Li Yanhong, and the others all chimed in.
For a moment, the director of the Ministry of Industry and Information Technology was overwhelmed. After a while, he laughed and said, "You guys are forcing me to abdicate!"
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